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Breton's avatar
Breton
Ideator III
4 years ago

Deletion on the null relation is allowed while it is not possible on the source (permission set) ?

Hello,

I've an ItemType "Source" and a NULL relation.
After promoting ItemType "Source "to "Validated" an permission is set to disable Deletion :It works fine !

But, In the TOC, I can access to ItemType NULL relation.

After testing, I can remove item in NULL relation although the deletion on ITEM source is not possible.

On NULL relation, the permission seems to be good (the same as Source) !

Do you have a proposable to disable DELETE on NULL relation ?
Thanks



4 Replies

  • angela's avatar
    angela
    Catalyst II
    4 years ago

    Hi Breton,

    it´s not completely clear what you do. Do you have a two TOC entries? One for the main ItemType and a second one for displaying the NULL-relationships? 

    • Breton's avatar
      Breton
      Ideator III
      4 years ago

      Hello,

      yes I've 2 TOC entries : One for the main ItemType and a second one for displaying the NULL-relationships

      Thanks

      FB

      • angela's avatar
        angela
        Catalyst II
        4 years ago

        Hi Breton,

        NULL relationships are not intended to be edited outside the scope of the source item. But of course it´s sometimes useful.

        You mentioned you have two permissions. Do you as admin have given yourself "update" permission when the Items are in "Validated"? If yes, that´s your problem

        E.g. compare it to "Part Cost" which is a NULL relationship used in Part. The ItemType is uses the source permissions "New Part" and "Released Part".

        For Released Parts it´s important, that users don´t have "Delete" AND(!!!) "Update" permission. As soon as "Update" is enabled, users can also delete the NULL relationship, even if delete itself is disabled.. Not sure if this is a bug, but that´s how it is in my I12.

        As alternative don´t use Source permission give the NULL relationship an independent Lifecycle. You then have to promote the Null-relationship permission when your parent item is promoted.

        If you have a subscription, maybe ask Aras about this one. I would also be interested in knowing the "correct" way to deal with NULL-relationships.

        Ciao

        Angela